*Note: This one was just called to my attention. It is 3 years old, but I'm sure another is right around the corner and this guy is on his way to a divorce. I want to thank most millennials I've seen for not taking this crap. Fight on. Just a generation ago girls were apologizing for liking "mean guys," and giving "nice guys" a chance. NO MORE.
So you actually are saying you don't want girls who are "ready" for nice guys anymore. That's so sad. You say you could have been a dream man to the girls you took out on dates if only they realized it. Now it's too late. I'm sure they are feeling bad now.
I confess, nice guy. I'm going to disappoint you on so many levels. I haven't actually read your whole letter to girls ready to date nice guys. I just know it's not a joke and...I got bored because it's actually not that original.
But, don't worry. I'm going to solve your problem. Bare with me for a moment as I talk about something other than you.
When a woman says: "I'm so ready to date a nice guy."
What she really means is: "You have been really pushy and you seem to want to take me out on a date. I'm going to give it a shot because EVERYONE is telling me to date a guy who seems nice. You keep saying you're nice and you want to take me to a nice place so..."
But who cares what the girl is really thinking, right? You seemed to have it all figured out. But, let me just tell you I would bet anything that when a woman goes out with you she says this to herself:
"He SEEMED ok, but something is off. He won't shut-up about himself. So, I really don't want to be here right now, but I want to be nice. While he talks I'll just text my friend so he'll get that there is going to be no second date or sex. He keeps swearing he's nice so I will tell him he is nice and women do want to date nice guys as I slowly back out of the room. "
It doesn't matter how much money you spend or how many "hours" you put in. A women is going to be able to tell if you are just taking her out and listening to her go on about her stupid problems because you want sex.
Maybe you'll say: "No! I DON'T want JUST sex. If you read my well thought out essay you'd know. I want a girlfriend. I want a pretty girlfriend that I can take out like a doll. Then she'll have sex with me with me whenever I want. And I'll tell her she's pretty and she'll tell me how AWESOME and AMAZING and NICE I am..."
Okay, I apologize. I was wrong you aren't a guy who isn't nice. You are the fucking devil. YOU ARE A WOMAN'S WORST NIGHTMARE. YOU ARE THE HETRO-DATING-ANTI-CHRIST that makes women want "mean guys" because what you aren't saying is this:
"I'm so nice I'll keep her forever, or for years until I decide she isn't the one...Or she WILL BE THE ONE. But, I'll get bored or she won't look so hot anymore or she'll stop constantly telling me how awesome I am. Then I'll get sick of her. So, either we'll divorce or if we don't I always have my porn and my strippers 'cause I'm so nice. She'll be so grateful because there are so many assholes out there."
And I as a woman say: "No thank you. I've figured out who you are. I've been dealing with dudes like you all my life. Every woman has whether they want to deal with heterosexual men or not. I wasn't sure at first, but I can see 20 minutes into
the date this is you. Please, give me a 'mean guy.' That at least won't ruin my life because that will end in a month and be fun. Check please."
Now you'll say: "It's not fair. I try so hard. The mean guys get what they want. The hot guys get what they want. Why, oh, why can't I?"
As David Wong has explained, every hard working suburban white boy has been told if he plays the game he deserves to have his achievements unlocked. He also sees the unfairness of the "mean" "alpha" guy getting it all so of course he's mad. You can't blame him. As much as I get it Wong, I CAN blame this guy and I will blame him and I'll blame anyone who fosters this attitude.
As Wong says, we all need to grow up from Kindergarten and learn that life isn't fair. Acting entitled because you grew up that way is not an excuse, and yet he gives men an excuse to act entitled to women. Why ARE WOMEN, no PEOPLE different?? They are they last thing one should feel entitled to:
This is not how you adult.
This is not how humans treat other humans.
This is how you want a woman to be a prostitute.
But, how can I preach all this when I know deep in my heart us women love mean bad boys? Here's how:
We Don't like the Mean Guys because We hate ourselves or because we are Stupid:
I don't know if this has ever occurred to "nice guys," but us women also have a right to be attracted to beautiful people that may reject us. Once (or maybe more than once) I liked a guy that was so pretty. We both liked the same deep comics. He dated bimbos while I was so deep and surely hot enough, right?
My high school boyfriend was sometimes actually nice. But there were other times he expected sex, time, and attention when I didn't want to give it. He also didn't listen to me very much and thought my interest in certain things were stupid. Everyone said I was mean for breaking up with him. I guess I'd have to give up everything I wanted to be considered "nice" to him.
Meanwhile, as a woman/girl it never even occurred to me to become furious with the pretty guy who didn't want a real relationship with me. I would never think to write him and every guy like him a fuck-you letter. Maybe it's because that would seem a little, I don't know, clingy yet hostile coming from a woman or...
I grew up. I realized people weren't achievements to be unlocked and sometimes people wouldn't like me back. MEN CAN REALIZE THIS TOO. ACTUAL NICE ONES DO.
I also realized maybe I wasn't that deep or awesome because would I really have been so in love with him if he didn't look so pretty? Maybe, but probably not as much. Does that make me a shallow bitch?
Do you want to know why I sometimes regret not having sex with "mean" pretty guy? Why I DID have sex with "mean guys" who often had no money by the way??
They didn't act like I OWED them sex. With pretty guy when we didn't have sex he didn't push it or get the slightest bit mad. He didn't tell me how nice he was. In fact he kept saying: "I'm not a good guy." After all the nice guy bullshit for years of my life it was SO sexy.... AND he kept talking to me about comic books and philosophy... In other words he saw me as an actual person, despite also seeing if we could have sex. He wasn't saying: "I'm nice" and expecting a parade. He also would never expect a doting girlfriend to give him certain responses. No pressure.
And believe me "nice guy" you are full of pressure and you are more dangerous than any "mean guy." "Nice Guys" like you steal our whole youth and souls.
Not that guys like you care but...
When a woman choses to have sex with someone who doesn't feel OWED sex she feels free.
She actually gets to explore her OWN sexual desire for once and not what other people want from her as a sex object.
Self proclaimed "dream-man" might say: "I'd love this problem. Please, if some girl would just use me as a sex object."
I'm sure you would. Because you have never been treated like one. It's how you are treating every woman who didn't like you on a date with this fuck-you letter.
You, my friend, have had full permission to have all your feels and feelings as a heterosexual guy. You wanted women. You wanted HOT YOUNG WOMEN and everyone told you it was okay. Everyone said you were entitled to that.
Imagine not having that. Imagine people telling you all your choices had to consider how the other person was actually feeling and that YOU WERE OWED NOTHING, but you are stupid or shallow if you don't respond in a certain way.
Guess what? YOU ARE OWED NOTHING. YOU ARE SHALLOW AND NOT THAT BRIGHT. You can respond to us women however you want. You have rights. It doesn't seem like any of your privileges are going away either. But, while you have a right to your response for not getting what you want WOMEN ALSO HAVE RIGHTS. I would say that all human beings have a right to call you out on this bullshit.
So, Congrats on deciding you don't want these awful girls who want "nice guys." You aren't one and you never were. I don't care if your friends, your mom, your town, or every movie before 2009 tells you that you are. You are not nice.
I may be baised but my husband is a nice guy. He did take me out to fancy meals. He also would bring over all his movies when I was tired. He didn't get mad when I fell asleep on a date. I told him I wasn't sure if I wanted to have a relationship or sex. He still wanted to be friends.
He remained a friend. I knew he was interested in me. I was also interested in him. It was because he was a person that actually listened and talked to me that I knew he was an actual nice person that could be "the man of my dreams."
Or my reality: Today he does a lot of house work. He is more than a 50% parent to our daughter. I gained weight from having our daughter. I've also have done what all "hot girls" eventually do as wives. I turned 41.
When these things happened it never occurred to me that he would leave or think he was a wonderful person that deserved a parade for being with me because he's not nice. A person who is nice wants 1,000 Thank You cards. Best friends don't.
Oh, he also never said he was "nice." He never made me feel bad for not being sure and taking my time. When I told him my past of liking "mean guys" and girls he never made me feel stupid or unwanted. He never made me feel like I should be grateful for him. This is why I am.